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'Weapons' and 'One Battle After Another' - Movies are BACK!

October 04, 2025 • Ken Palmer • Episode 62

Weapons & One Battle After Another Review: Movies Are So Back! | Movie Review & Theatrical Experience Discussion

Join us for an exciting double feature review as we dive deep into two of the most talked-about films: 'Weapons' and 'One Battle After Another.' Cregger's latest film is INSANE, and we love INSANE is CINEMA! In this episode, we break down everything from performances and directing to cinematography and storytelling, giving you our honest takes on both movies. PTA and Leo joining forces in an action-packed blockbuster!? PINCH ME, I must be dreaming.

But we don't stop at the reviews—we get into a passionate discussion about the theatrical experience and why it matters more than ever. From the immersive sound design to the communal energy of watching films with an audience, we explore why going to the movies hits different. An opening night horror movie is THE GREATEST EXPERIENCE KNOWN TO MAN!

We're declaring it loud and clear: movies are SO BACK! Whether you're a casual moviegoer or a dedicated cinephile, this episode celebrates the magic of cinema and the irreplaceable experience of watching films on the big screen.

In This Episode:

Complete review and analysis of 'Weapons'
Our thoughts on 'One Battle After Another'
Why the theatrical experience can't be replicated at home
The resurgence of cinema and what it means for movie lovers
Our favorite moments from both films

Perfect for film fans, movie reviewers, and anyone who loves the magic of the movies. Don't forget to subscribe and let us know your thoughts on these films in the comments!

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KP (00:03.155)
Welcome back to I watch more movies than you you got Ken And we're dad gone back with the weapons is that Craig or his latest little picture Dang, he can whip that camera around and one battle after it Pause have you seen barbarian? Yeah One I don't yeah, I don't know either and then we have

Bobbymom (00:07.294)
E.Gad, Bobby.

Bobbymom (00:17.762)
Hey, hey, he can whip it around, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah, we've talked about this, think. I think.

KP (00:31.785)
Paul Thomas Anderson, Leonardo DiCaprio, Benicio Del Toro's one battle after another. This is, again, there's no through line through these two movies. They make no sense together, but they're both awesome and we wanna cover them. That's exactly right-ish. He's hijacking people, weapons one battle after another. He's hijacking, here he goes. Bobby, floor is yours. You look good.

Bobbymom (00:45.07)
It's just like us.

Yeah. And, and hey, I'm going to hijack for a second if you don't mind. All right. Okay. It's, been, we're not on camera. It's been a minute since we've recorded the, and you know what? got, I got a shout out real quick to a couple of fans that, friends of the pod is like to say, who have actually reached out to me in this like hiatus.

and have said that they miss the pod. So I appreciate those people who are like big, consistent listeners who miss us. And anyway, not gonna get into anything too personal, but both of us have had very hectic lives lately. You have had a full plate with a lot of things going on. Thankfully, not to scare anybody, everybody's okay. It's just been a very

KP (01:22.973)
Big time hugs.

Bobbymom (01:47.246)
We'll say you've been on high seas lately. And just leave it at that. Unless you want to go in more, but that's all I will say. But I just wanted to say that people... Ken cares about movies. We both care about movies. you know, Ken has put so much work into this pod. This is his baby. I'm just like the glorified sexy babysitter. I'm the glorified sexy babysitter. Let me have this. But it's his baby.

KP (02:10.427)
No, ours.

You are sexy.

Bobbymom (02:16.398)
And he cares about it. And if it were me behind the wheel on it, I may have thrown in the towel by this point because of everything that you've had going on. I were in your shoes, I don't know where I would be. But you love it so much. And I appreciate that despite everything, you still want to do this. You still want to give it your all. You still kind of check your stuff at the door.

KP (02:30.887)
I think you would, but continue.

Bobbymom (02:46.074)
and come in here butt naked, ready to do this thing. And I appreciate that you care about it as much as you do.

KP (02:49.895)
Yow yeah.

KP (02:53.993)
Well, I care about you and that connection and people look when you're going through Bobby, thank you first. And when you're going through a rough season, you would think like, okay, what's going to get you that? Well, God's grace, your family, the wife, he's blessed you with all those amazing kids and no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's movies. It's cinema. And it's cinema. So set to cinema. We return Bobby. Thank you very much. I've missed you. I've missed this.

Bobbymom (03:09.262)
It's movie, it's cinema. It's cinema, dude.

Bobbymom (03:18.926)
Of Yeah. I've missed you too. Yeah. I've missed this very much. Very much. I forgot, forgot like how good it feels to be on this, but I also felt its absence. You know, like I knew I'd feel so, yes. Please.

KP (03:22.267)
Kiss out.

KP (03:29.385)
Okay, permission to nibble your.

Adam's apple.

KP (03:37.065)
No, it's amazing movies are awesome. They make the world go round and obviously got in our family and everything It's the best but look

Bobbymom (03:44.684)
Have you been- we're about to jump into two radically different, very radical independent movies by themselves. Have you watched anything lately though that we're not talking about that's gotten you excited?

KP (03:56.147)
Well, I'm excited because it's October. Okay, so that in itself has gotten me just rocky. And yeah, and right now, I mean, just to give you the last like on AMC Fear Fest, I watched Halloween. I missed one, but two was on in the background. Well, I furious love to my wife and then I'm just kidding. soon, hey, soon.

Bobbymom (04:04.94)
Yeah, well, rock hard. Right.

Bobbymom (04:12.558)
Okay

Okay, Furious love. Hey, it's okay. I don't even know about that.

KP (04:26.893)
But and now the 27 the 2017 team where your video in 2017 it Which is to me a nearly perfect movie miss yeti. I I Cannot tell you I couldn't give it more flowers. I love 2017 yet. I think it's phenomenal the monster move Yeah, that's kind of yeah, that is crazy. I was working with us still working in Northgate

Bobbymom (04:36.206)
Really?

Bobbymom (04:45.356)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. We sold that together.

Yeah. No, that's when we were working together. We walked down to the theater together. Yeah. Yeah.

KP (04:57.129)
That's it. Yeah. And ended up taking over that one. Yeah. Wild how that, um, which I still there, but, uh, and then, you know, and I've showed my kids, I have a four and a two year old, uh, Mr. But Dickie and a bear bear. showed them a Charlie Browns, uh, and he's already seen it, but, the great pumpkin, Charlie Brown, like 15 times.

Bobbymom (05:15.372)
wow. I showed my two and a half year old the Hills had eyes. So that's, that's interesting. Interesting parental difference there. yeah. we watched, we watched a teeth recently. I'm just kidding. She found a derivative. There's a very, there's a very similar bluey episode.

KP (05:19.529)
And climax and solo. Shout out Bill Hader. We got him.

Okay, yeah, it's a real good toddler movie.

I'm sure. I'm sure. I don't know of what. But yeah, would hate to I'd hate to know.

forget you're on 8chan. I got a tickle on my throat. Hey, you know what Bobby?

Bobbymom (05:48.366)
What?

Bobbymom (05:53.056)
What? What?

KP (05:55.581)
There it goes. So look, we got Zach Kregger, right? An RIP Trevor. He's from Why This Kid You Know. That Lost in His Life obviously read this movie. He wrote it while in production of Barbarian. I can't imagine the loss of a best friend. But Weapons, again, in our movie draft, if you want to go back and watch it, I think I got it. But Weapons is one of those ones the stinger just had me hook, line, and sinker from the beginning. I mean, people, you have...

Bobbymom (06:10.318)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (06:16.365)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (06:23.341)
Mm-hmm.

KP (06:25.071)
One class one elementary school class one night mysteriously vanished naruto running into the woods same night Everybody except one child And now you have a community. It has to reckon with that Wild great high-level log line, you know what I mean? Like that's I mean I get why this got made I get why jordan peels fired his

Bobbymom (06:39.15)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (06:44.31)
Yeah.

KP (06:52.521)
I don't know if it was his agent or the guy that leads his production company because he did not bid high enough to get this film. which is a crazy story, which is neat. That just shows you weapons was just, was just hot from the beginning. a very long legging and marketing campaign where it was just phenomenal. And it's all anybody talked about for however long. I actually like long. How did you feel about long legs?

Bobbymom (07:13.633)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (07:18.504)
I... We talked about this. We did the episode on this. I... I liked it, but it wasn't the movie we thought we were getting, based on the trailer. You did, because I wanted to see the movie we saw the trailer for, and I don't think we saw... Yeah, I don't think we got that.

KP (07:21.33)
You what? You what? Did you watch it?

KP (07:27.345)
I brought my long legs with me.

KP (07:36.903)
I liked it more than you, think.

KP (07:42.152)
yeah, like the scariest movie ever. Yeah.

Bobbymom (07:47.19)
I wanted more cage and I wanted more scary cage and we did not get enough of that.

KP (07:49.435)
always.

Well, let me ask you this. Could not agree more. I liked it actually like a lot, but I do absolutely believe that the marketing team did a misdirection.

Bobbymom (08:04.566)
And that's not, you know, you can't blame, when I critique a movie, I don't put all the blame on a director or anything because that's, trailers and all that, that's, I kind of put that on the marketing team. I don't put that on the director.

KP (08:17.501)
Well, you got to get people in seats right now, man. And they're at a premium. And I can put this whole microphone in my throat.

Bobbymom (08:23.904)
Yeah, please do.

KP (08:25.737)
So you have Zack Craigers weapons. would argue almost could be considered a dark comedy. Look, we're gonna spoil insert Tate song here. Shout out Tate. I promise it's coming. I'm just gonna do it and not even like care about like, you know what I mean? So you have, mean, easily one of the coolest most anticipated movies of the year. One of the best concepts ever. We have went all but one child from the same class.

Bobbymom (08:31.191)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (08:36.09)
I don't think you are. I didn't get-

Bobbymom (08:42.894)
No.

KP (08:53.415)
Mysteriously vanished on the same night exactly the same time communities left questioning who or what is behind their disappearance. How cool is that? And you know anytime like immediately when something happens to a child to children Immediately the bar just goes so high the stakes go so high I don't think you can care about more in a movie than the fate of a child. Do you agree?

Bobbymom (09:01.612)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (09:11.479)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (09:22.314)
I agree, yeah. And that's hard. I went into this and I'll get into how I feel about the film later after we talk about it some I guess, but I went into it with a lot of anxiety because I'm a new dad and I've just got to a place where it's easy to make fun of because I used to make fun of my dad for doing the exact same thing, but it's hard for me to watch movies where I know kids are endangered or it does raise the stakes, but it

It puts an anxiety in my heart that's hard for me to deal with.

KP (09:52.775)
Yeah. I mean, it's like when insidious plays that high pitch tone or then they let the baby cry because they know what that does to you. coming in cocked up as you said, you know, you're, you're already, you're already why. And I think that, you know, you have a, you have a bone chilling premise, right? Like you have, Zach Kroeger has said in interviews, great one on big picture, but that he took.

Bobbymom (10:02.551)
yeah, cocked up.

Bobbymom (10:12.814)
Yeah, yeah

KP (10:23.357)
Speaking of Paul Thomas Anderson, here's our through line his Magnolia George A. Romero's the crazies and kind of made a movie So what's cool about Craig er is like is kind of an odd but up-and-coming on tour where you know It's his movie their wild concepts are not everyday movies do tell me you couldn't just put weapons in the rotation around this time of the year in perpetuity from this point on

Bobbymom (10:27.534)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (10:38.094)
Mm. Mm.

Bobbymom (10:45.108)
I... Yeah, no, I definitely think it has that potential,

KP (10:50.025)
Yeah, I agree. You want some autumn set and we'll get into that. get really that's where I start thinking maybe I am on the spectrum when it comes to autumn, but You have look weapons is chilling. Okay, you're immediately brought into weapons and again, we're gonna spoil With the monologue of a child that is missing, right? Feedback from Tess audiences said let's get a little bit more explanation. Thus he brought her in

Bobbymom (10:54.05)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (11:02.318)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (11:09.933)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (11:18.446)
So that's interesting because I kind of wish they had left that out.

KP (11:21.769)
I'm with you. Well, I mean, didn't mind it, but I also.

Bobbymom (11:26.446)
I don't, yeah, I don't mind it. It doesn't ruin the movie for me, but I think, I think, I didn't need it. And I think when you kind of, when you kind of over, over instruct your audience, you kind of leave them a little lackluster.

KP (11:32.283)
I didn't need it. I did not need it. No.

KP (11:38.697)
explain.

KP (11:43.753)
Well, that's me and you for sure. They're definitely trying to cast a wide net, but I am on the same side as you. I actually like I believe, mean, I'm a Lynch fan for crying a lot. I have no idea what the heck happened in any of his movies. You know I mean? Like I don't, I don't. And that's the other side of this, you know, the range of outcomes there, but I'm with you. But what I think is neat, okay, so that so that happens right? And you're immediately dropped in.

Bobbymom (11:45.72)
For sure,

Bobbymom (11:57.45)
right. Yeah.

Bobbymom (12:03.831)
Right, right.

Bobbymom (12:09.776)
Hmm

KP (12:11.017)
You have a fantastic performance from everybody. love seeing Brolin in a movie. It was almost Pedro Pascal. I'm glad it was Brolin. Pedro's great. He is great. We're getting a lot of Pedro. So getting a lot of Pedro. That's what I hate. So you know what I mean? So am I. You know, I'm saying off camera. Hey, no complaints. Oh, Mr. Fantastic. He was a great Mr. Fantastic. Julia Garner stills the show.

Bobbymom (12:18.168)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (12:39.564)
Mm-hmm.

KP (12:39.643)
She's fantastic. She's having a year. Look her up people. I love all now.

Bobbymom (12:42.616)
Mm-hmm.

Did you watch Ozarks?

KP (12:49.236)
no, I've never seen it.

Bobbymom (12:50.956)
Yeah, yeah, you need to watch those art. Yeah, yeah.

KP (12:52.679)
She's a nose art.

KP (12:56.681)
She's also in Fantastic Four in Wolfman in apartment 7A. She's like having a run right now.

Bobbymom (13:02.318)
I think she got her start in the Ozark.

KP (13:05.065)
She, yeah, Langmore, she was in some robot chicken stuff. Modern love the assistant dirty jump, but yeah, you're right. think that.

Bobbymom (13:10.03)
But I mean, but she became, she became like a, yeah, cause that's a, that's a big, yeah, you didn't watch it. It's a, it's a good show. It's a good show. Yeah. Yeah. It's good. Jason, Jason Bateman. Yeah. It's good. Yeah. It's a, it's, it's, yeah, it's about money laundering. It's really good.

KP (13:17.691)
Okay, yeah for sure. Thanks for putting on my radar and I fired up we got him

KP (13:26.025)
I'm a huge fan of metal wandering. So that's perfect. Unless a list the feds are listening to this and I'm just joking. But you're immediately dropped in baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby,

Bobbymom (13:28.546)
Perfect, perfect, perfect,

Hahaha!

Bobbymom (13:53.302)
Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

KP (13:55.621)
Is there a chance like she's obviously so I mean you can almost argue some people come in as she's suspect number one I mean 17 parents put their kids in the bed for the last time in her class You know what? mean and at 2 17 a.m. They ran into their night Naruto style With some of the most chilling images you've seen in marketing for a movie probably ever And

Bobbymom (14:06.644)
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Bobbymom (14:21.506)
Mm-hmm.

KP (14:24.777)
You're dropped right in, which I love that in medias race. I like your drop right into it to this town. Um, and it wastes no time getting started. Uh, but what's so cool with the Magnolia thing, Bobby, I want to ask your opinion on this. How do you like, because it does it like a book. does it in chapters. You have one character and then it goes to another character and where this movie I think was really neat is you get that. I don't mean to use in medias race again, you know, we're Latin on this podcast, but you're, you're,

Bobbymom (14:37.102)
Let's hear it,

Bobbymom (14:41.282)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (14:51.982)
All right.

KP (14:53.575)
you're launching off points for characters and where you're picking up at the other characters are really unique points. But yet a spider's web is kind of woven and it's so satisfying. Did you like that Craig or divide his story into character driven chapters, which is like an ensemble feel, or would you have preferred a more straight line narration?

Bobbymom (15:13.898)
I think I enjoyed it mostly because I have been recently some of the books I've been reading have been doing the same thing. And I like seeing a continuous story from different perspectives because it makes it in a movie like this where you're trying to determine who is at fault and what exactly is going on. It's a lot harder to say, well, it's that character.

because, well, now you're seeing it from that person's angle. But it makes it, in the long run, it makes it harder to tell that story too, I think. So anytime anyone does it and pulls it off and still makes it feel mysterious, mean, kudos to them for that. You know, that's one of the positive things that we'll say about this movie is that if you had it all from one perspective, then it may fall into some typical

KP (15:46.312)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (16:13.454)
thriller mystery stereotypes, which switching it up avoids doing that.

KP (16:20.689)
Yeah, you said some interesting things there where I start wondering if we're going to diverge in our opinion of this film.

Bobbymom (16:27.928)
We may diverge more than you think, not... still enjoy... How about I just go ahead and say, because like... So I enjoyed this movie. I have a few things that I'm not crazy about. Probably don't like it as much as you do, but I did enjoy it. I thought...

KP (16:34.291)
Please, yeah, let people know.

Bobbymom (16:55.662)
I thought the slow build to this movie pays off. think there's, here's the thing. I think there's a great introduction, great introduction, great slow build and a great payoff at the end. My, uh...

Bobbymom (17:14.026)
And I like its ambiguity. I like that mixed structure that you were just saying. doesn't make anything... It's not tidy. It's not neat. Despite him having that intro, he does give you an ambiguous movie. I do appreciate that.

I, I, it's just one of those movies. I don't know. This is for everybody. Right. Because there is, there are points in the film that feel like they fizzle out and there's some points that explode. And so a little bit of that inconsistency, a little bit of that pacing may just not work for everybody, which is okay. I mean, it doesn't have to work for everybody, but that's just something that I would maybe warn about before you.

watch it. If you haven't watched it yet and you're curious about or opinion about it, that would just be one thing that I would be a little bit wary of. Again, I love the slow burn aspect of it and I think if you can hang with it, the payoff is beautiful. I think it ends just as strongly as it starts.

And I don't know how you feel about that. I'm really interested of all the things that I wanted to talk to you about this film. I wanted to talk to you about this the most. For me, I wonder if the middle just drags a little too much. It gets a little slow. And I think the pacing just kind of starts to crumble a little bit in the midsection. And I think for some audiences, it would test patience, right?

Maybe not for me and you, because we could sit down and watch a four hour movie and not think twice about it. But I think there are some slow moments that could divide audiences. I think...

Bobbymom (19:19.886)
I it has some, I think it under promises in areas, but it delivers really big in the end. So it's just one of those like, for me, it's how much can you deal with some of that slow, maybe slow burns too much, if that makes sense.

KP (19:36.989)
Are you a fan of the ending?

Bobbymom (19:39.424)
I actually did like the ending, Yeah. The whole thing, okay, so for me, the beginning feels like a grim fairy tale, right? Very Pied Piper, okay? The kids are all summoned by some unknown force and for everyone to leave at once, it's either s-

KP (19:40.776)
Yeah, I figured.

KP (19:51.421)
Mm-hmm.

KP (19:58.141)
Did you have that vibe before watching? Awesome. Okay, cool.

Bobbymom (20:02.08)
I had that vibe from the trailer. Yeah. And so I do think that was one thing about the trailer that does promise, you know, follows through with its promises that you have this almost like, because without them saying it, none of them getting out at 2 a.m. despite the fact that it looks like it's been premeditated. It didn't feel premeditated watching it. So the fact that,

It felt very organic. felt mythical from the beginning in that regard, at least it to me. That felt, that felt, this feels very dark fairy tale, very, you know, whatever. And then, and then you kind of drag through this like whole who done it situation, like for better term, in the middle.

KP (20:38.237)
Yeah, great word. Great word for it. Agreed.

Bobbymom (20:58.062)
and then you're right back to Fairy Tail at the End. And I did like that aspect. I think I would have just trimmed some of the fat in the middle and as much as I loved, what's her name? Sorry, I'm blanking the teacher's name.

KP (21:02.056)
Yeah, that's.

KP (21:15.891)
What is she her name is Ozark.

Bobbymom (21:19.862)
Yeah, her name is Ozark. As much as I like Ozark's perspective, that... I almost don't really know why we had her perspective. I'm not sure that we needed it. I really don't know that we needed it. I found Josh Brolin's perspective much more interesting.

KP (21:24.445)
Julia Garner.

KP (21:31.857)
Ooh, interesting.

KP (21:40.337)
He was probably my favorite pers-

Bobbymom (21:43.03)
I think that perspective was the best one. I do like the whole like, I'm getting blamed for something I didn't do, but she didn't have a whole lot to do. Like she, like, she served as this conduit of, Hey, I'm, I'm just here. I don't know what happened. And now everyone's looking at me.

KP (22:00.949)
and another piece of Kroeger's obsession with or interest in alcoholism.

Bobbymom (22:09.164)
That's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's, there's something to end, you know, this is a strong and big ambitious movie. it's, it's, it what's imperfect about it is almost appropriate. Like there are all these characters that you see their perspective. There's some, they're, they're flawed, right?

KP (22:10.109)
Genuinely like he does that and in our in an archer graph of Josh Brolin's character

Bobbymom (22:38.486)
And that's just part of the makeup of it. This is showing all these perspectives of every flawed character.

KP (22:41.936)
Every single character is flawed.

Alden Einrichs, the cop named Paul, the junkie named James, the principal. Marcus played amazingly with such beautiful comedic timing by Benedict Wong. All performers are strong. They all have the unique energy, but they're all very flawed. Everyone's great. I agree with that. The cast is phenomenal.

Bobbymom (22:49.719)
huh. Yeah.

Bobbymom (22:57.462)
Mm-hmm. Yeah Everyone's everyone's great Yeah, I was What'd you say your name was Garner Garner Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very Judy Garland this she's and she's dude she's great She was my favorite character in Ozark by a long shot and Jason Bateman's right there. Okay, She I think she did because it is fun

KP (23:08.913)
Julia Garner. Such a movie star name.

KP (23:15.921)
Right.

KP (23:22.185)
I'm pretty sure she wanted an Emmy for that.

Bobbymom (23:27.33)
her work in that and I don't think anyone thought that was coming and she just became she exploded on that show dude it's dude it's dude it's so good and she plays she plays her character so well and so I was so I I will watch anything with her in it just cuz I want I want her to have all the flowers I want her to have every single flower in the garden I do she's great and I'm gonna be I'm a lifelong fan already but

KP (23:34.771)
That's cool if somebody's just really good. That's awesome.

KP (23:54.931)
Well, she's having like genuinely she's having one of the better cinematic years one can have because she was in weapons. She was in the fantastic four. And I told you, know, so those two alone are two of the biggest blockbusters the entire year prior to that Wolfman apartment, seven, a Royal hotel.

Bobbymom (24:02.07)
Yeah. Yeah.

Bobbymom (24:11.243)
So it's fine I didn't I didn't even realize she's in Fantastic Four. We didn't get to talk about this because We didn't get to record when we thought we were going to Okay, is she really I did so I went to the drive-in theater to see Fantastic Four I did and The sound wouldn't work

KP (24:18.643)
She's the Silver Surfer.

KP (24:23.121)
Yeah, isn't that sick?

Oh, sit. Are you serious? That's amazing. Oh, well, it's almost amazing.

Bobbymom (24:34.894)
So 30 minutes in, they couldn't figure it out and they tried to restart it and they restarted it and they still couldn't figure it out. So I just went home. I do too. I mean, I was there, my cousin, he was in this amazing convertible. felt like, we were at the perfect night, stars, everybody. It didn't pan out, So I still have yet to see it.

KP (24:39.37)
that's brutal.

KP (24:43.375)
I hate that. I'm so sorry.

KP (24:51.78)
cool.

KP (24:55.625)
that sounds amazing.

KP (25:03.085)
what? Seriously? I liked it more than most. I love Galacticus. I love all the celestial side. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's divisive. I enjoyed it. And as far as weapons goes, that's interesting your thoughts. I, I they make perfect sense to me. I do think we fall into one of those things where I like it a little more. I do think Josh. Yeah, and it's

Bobbymom (25:04.15)
I still have yet to see it, yeah.

I've heard really good things about it. I'm hearing mostly good things about it.

Okay.

Bobbymom (25:22.626)
Hmm.

And I can totally see that and don't fault it at all.

KP (25:31.783)
No, it's a good movie. think we both think it's a good movie. I don't think it hit five out of five on Letterboxd for me like it could have, like something with this premise could have. But I definitely, it's hyper palatable. When I watched this opening night in the movie theater, there's a, and I love being scared because it's so rare as an adult.

Bobbymom (25:34.072)
Yeah, we do, yeah.

Bobbymom (25:40.302)
Mm-mm.

Bobbymom (25:52.142)
Mmm.

Bobbymom (25:56.557)
Man, there's also probably a pretty good atmosphere on an opening night for a movie like this. 100%.

KP (26:03.045)
It's that horror movies and theaters on opening night. I stand by it's the greatest experience you can. There's it's something there's magic in the air.

Bobbymom (26:13.294)
Yeah, everyone's there for the same reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

KP (26:15.953)
Right. Yeah, exactly. Cause you're opening night. So you know, you know, they're locked in this scene. There is an incredible scene where Julie Garner's character is sitting outside of the house and someone walks out of the house at night and she's already falling asleep and you see this horrifically like ambulatory character, but the way she's walking is even just makes you uneasy. And then you hear, you see her walk towards Julie Garner's car.

Bobbymom (26:39.438)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (26:44.462)
KP (26:44.529)
And she disappears out of frame and you hear the latch open up in the back. Then you see scissor. I mean dude, I don't want to give it away. We already said we're going to spoil it. But this scene on opening night, Bobby, this scene alone was a top five for me. And I've seen Star Wars, I've seen it all. That scene, if you could feel when everybody inhaled and they were just holding, we were all holding our breath together like.

Bobbymom (26:49.303)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (27:02.189)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (27:10.446)
You can hear a pin drop probably. that's crazy, man. That's, know, there have been so many and lately, you know, with like, I don't know, COVID and streaming and cell phones and everything. I know a lot of people now who don't want to go to the theater when they know it's going to be packed out. They'd rather it be a small crowd, almost no one watching at home.

KP (27:11.931)
It was unbelievable. was so, it was movie magic.

That scene elevated the whole movie for me, if I'm being honest.

KP (27:38.141)
I get it, I get both sides.

Bobbymom (27:39.022)
But there is something about seeing a movie with this much energy behind it with a crowd that has the same kind of respect that you do. So going to Opening Night for anything has to be like, it's got to make the movie a letter grade better. Just by the experience.

KP (27:45.171)
good way to word it.

KP (27:55.781)
It did. It did for me. And in the fact he did the whole character driven chapters, for me, it really showed how divided response can be to tragedy.

Bobbymom (28:04.45)
Do you, where do you sit with Garner's character? Like, I think we can both appreciate her as an actress and like her being a conduit into this movie, but do you really think her character was necessary? Like, you think I'm missing something by saying like, is she really necessary?

KP (28:23.977)
Bro, you're the first.

KP (28:30.025)
We're divided on that because I do think without her, because what she does provide is the what if. What if the audience is being misled and she actually is the big bad? Correct. I like, and maybe that's my anxiety, but yes, the entire time. Because think about it if it was your child, God forbid, and the teacher.

Bobbymom (28:46.092)
So what if she's like an unreliable narrator, like from her perspective?

Bobbymom (28:56.876)
Right. Right.

KP (29:00.457)
You you trust the teacher.

Bobbymom (29:00.878)
Well, you trust the teacher, right? So you're supposed to... So now everybody from the same class, absolutely, if this were happening in real life in my town, I can tell you right now, in my town, if this happened, like, there'd be pitchforks in front of her lawn, you know, like it would be...

KP (29:07.485)
Just her class, just hers.

KP (29:15.207)
And then you research and you realize she's she's jumped jobs because of issues at the other one. And now all of sudden all the kids are missing and just her class.

Bobbymom (29:19.21)
Right, right. Yeah.

Okay, so you think she is so almost as if, you know, I say she might, I'm not sure if her character is important to the overall story. You're arguing that that, that in and of itself may be the point. She's there to put doubt maybe.

KP (29:42.601)
I like your perspective. haven't considered. For me, she did do that. Her indignation, her like just, you know what I mean? But I do, your perspective is interesting. Your perspective takes us from a two hour and eight minute movie to an hour and 45. So like, I think you're right. think that's a different, I do think that's a different movie if you absent her POV.

Bobbymom (29:48.098)
Yeah, that might be the point. Yeah. Okay. Okay, I can appreciate that.

Bobbymom (30:02.242)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (30:06.67)
It's a different movie. It's a different movie. He's still thinking the character's there, you know, but her POV getting into it from that perspective, you know.

KP (30:11.912)
Yeah.

KP (30:17.641)
I'd watch your movie too, but it would just be absent that that particular scene that made this movie. You know what I mean?

Bobbymom (30:22.794)
Right that you said is so yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah and and maybe if you watch it a set now I haven't done this but if I watch it a second time knowing that and spoiler people but knowing that she is not the big bad then you look at it from the perspective of a terrified teacher who Everyone thinks that she's just the next Netflix documentary because she's done something to all these kids But but she knows

KP (30:38.525)
Yeah.

KP (30:47.975)
Yeah, you feel sympathetic. Like I watched this movie two and a half times.

Bobbymom (30:51.426)
But she must be freaking out because she knows it's not her. So if it's not her, what... Right. So if it's not her, then what is it? And if she's the only character that can say without a doubt, there is something more menacing at play, that's terrifying.

KP (30:54.683)
Yeah, once you, you're right. That rewatchability is higher because of that.

KP (31:10.599)
Yeah, because the other side of the coin is she knows it wasn't her. So what the fudge was it?

Bobbymom (31:15.352)
So do you think she, do you think she, and again, spoilers, do you think she knew maybe before everybody else that there was a kind of a supernatural, for lack of a better word, element here, a mythical element to all this?

KP (31:28.989)
Well, I don't know if she thought it was supernatural. I didn't even.

Bobbymom (31:34.027)
No, I don't think any of us did.

KP (31:35.977)
But I do think she had to have been on the second watch for sure. You're right. She had to have been absolutely devastated and freaked out for one give charitable assumptions to teachers. She cares about her students. You know what mean. And Alex by way one of the all time her kid performances by Carrie Christopher. So she cared about her students to.

Bobbymom (31:53.205)
Mm-hmm. Right.

KP (32:03.867)
her entire livelihood, everybody from the red spray painted witch on the side of her car to everything. She's gonna get got man. I'd be terrified if I was her.

Bobbymom (32:09.582)
Man, I wouldn't even want to be a teacher after this. If I survive this as a teacher, I don't think I'd want to do it again.

KP (32:17.273)
No, I would be so terrified if I was her. Her whole world, one of the worst feelings in the world is when you're blamed for something you didn't do.

Bobbymom (32:20.269)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (32:27.39)
absolutely, And you feel crazy. You feel absolutely crazy. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah.

KP (32:28.603)
You know what mean? You feel, yeah, and she does. She drinks. She drinks, she bangs her ex. Like she, I mean, there's just so many. No, for me, it's funny. I...

I wouldn't cut her chapter out if I was, if we're just making that decision to take this from two hours and eight to an hour and 45, you know what mean? She's not the one I cut out. Like I would do one of the cop or the junkie and stuff, but like really? But he's exactly right. So what I really think Craig did with this is he rebuked elevated horror. Everybody thought this was elevated horror. They thought it was the next hereditary.

Bobbymom (32:50.272)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right.

Bobbymom (32:55.924)
The junkie was so funny though.

Bobbymom (33:04.62)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

KP (33:08.519)
Midsommar they thought it you know Ari Aster that that same scope that lens which is awesome And you know, I don't use all their but like that's what people thought weapons was gonna be then he's like no no no no no no This is gonna be funny Josh Brolin is gonna give you a WGF a WTF moment We were the funniest deliveries in the history of movies The entire theater went nut like they everybody laughed together with that and he's gonna give you literally a dark almost a dark horror comedy It's really an adult

Bobbymom (33:32.878)
Mm-hmm.

KP (33:37.875)
fantastical dark fairy tale. So completely rebuke the elevated horror.

Bobbymom (33:41.134)
Yeah, it is, this is a, this is a fairy tale, like 100%. 100%, yeah.

KP (33:46.885)
It is and that's so neat and like and and to get into like for example, Brolin like one of my favorite he's what he's probably my favorite chapter, right? the kids chapter is really good too. I will say that so depressing

Bobbymom (33:56.19)
I think so too. I may have wanted to see sections of that chapter earlier in the film, but I need to re-watch it again before I am willing to

KP (34:04.178)
Very depressing.

KP (34:14.535)
Yeah, it's a good rewatch. It's a different, I've watched it two and a half times. It's complicated, I watch it when I should, but yeah. Now, where I really had another, again, another affinity for this film where it's elevated is during Roland's chapter, who lost his son, right? he's, so you have what starts off as like this horror.

Bobbymom (34:16.791)
Have you watched it more than once?

Okay, that's why okay

Bobbymom (34:36.684)
Yeah.

KP (34:40.723)
Then it goes to this procedural who done it right? They get this detective he sees as anybody would be in that situation. And he's losing his mind. He's going. He's a foreman. You can tell you there's mistakes he's making. He's not and he's got this whole like, you know, the whole plan on the wall with the pins and the yarn and everything and but we're something interesting introducing to him as he has night terrors, right? He has these really vivid nightmares and one of them.

Bobbymom (34:48.142)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (34:58.807)
Right.

Bobbymom (35:06.029)
We're here.

KP (35:10.055)
You know, he's there at 2 17 a.m. And the sun gets up and goes and he follows etc. And in this nightmare, so this will stay with me forever. But he follows him all the way through and realizes it's a home the kids are running to. It's a house above that house is a rifle. And his nightmares are rifle on it to 17.

Bobbymom (35:22.03)
Hmm.

Bobbymom (35:28.533)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Bobbymom (35:33.646)
Mm.

KP (35:38.569)
And then no explanation, nothing else said that's the end of the nightmare. Almost he says, he's almost he's telling me to love. I like that. I like that he got that. But so for me, there's a lot of different interpretations of that. But the first thing I thought, because you have 270 people, 270 people against the gun control law, the latest one in Congress, you had 217, whatever, like there's a million, you have room to 17, the shining, which is actually what Craig said it was. But I kind of think he's

Bobbymom (35:39.118)
Mmm.

Bobbymom (36:06.977)
oooo

KP (36:08.041)
I think he's messing with people. I don't even know. You know what I mean? But was such a chilling image, right? so, I mean, it's what I took away. And I don't even know yet. But what that was reminiscent of for me was that was such a Lynchian, a David Lynch moment. This hovering, ethereal, just gun floating in the air during a dream.

Bobbymom (36:10.082)
You think so?

Bobbymom (36:13.674)
Right. Right.

Bobbymom (36:30.743)
Mm.

KP (36:36.421)
and no expl- like how lynchian is that? You know what I mean? Like, and I'll never forget that. That was so brave of Zack Craigor to throw in a movie because immediately he could politicize his film. Immediately it could, it could box him in, right? It can immediately, whatever, but instead he just puts it up there and doesn't talk about it again. And that little hidden secret, that little, like it's just, I know it's going to have divided responses, but like,

Bobbymom (36:36.673)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Yeah.

Bobbymom (36:57.134)
Yeah.

KP (37:06.671)
I love that. What did you think when you saw in this nightmare of Josh Boland's chapter, there's an AR-15 just floating in the air with 217 on it?

Bobbymom (37:08.94)
Yeah. Yeah.

Bobbymom (37:18.402)
I mean that's, yeah, I mean obviously, and if I'm not mistaken, he went on record saying that this was not what this movie was about.

KP (37:18.793)
like school shooting, right?

KP (37:28.615)
He has said that a lot of people disagree with even what he has said, but yes, he has said it's not about that.

Bobbymom (37:33.134)
Like they think that he is like lying about it

KP (37:36.721)
Yeah, it's weird because he was born out of trauma of losing his friends suddenly and Trevor. But there's just so many coincidental things.

Bobbymom (37:44.918)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, maybe, you know, it could be grief in general, and this is just one of the physical, like, representations. Yeah, exactly. So that could be all that is, but you do get a little lynchy in there in Brolin's chapter, and you also kind of have to put yourself in the psyche of a father, which we are fathers, but like the psyche of a father who is going through this, and you start thinking of all of the...

KP (37:57.48)
Manifestations. Yeah.

KP (38:12.179)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (38:19.68)
traumatic things and your your and I'm not trying to get too in the weeds with it, but you know You gave me some advice right before my kiddo was born you said I'll never I just tell this to everybody, know I'll never forgive those you said that being a parent is the highest highs and the lowest lows and This is him in the lowest lows. I mean, there's nothing worth this next to next to child death or sickness like

a child going missing has to be, you know, one of the most, if not the most devastating thing you can go through. And so he is quite literally weaponizing his mind. You know, his mind is, at this point, seems like it's only two avenues. This could be either his mind is betraying him and turning on him, or...

KP (38:54.589)
Mm-hmm.

KP (39:13.929)
Yeah, I love that perspective.

Bobbymom (39:15.674)
or he is truly in a fairy tale or in some kind of mythical and it doesn't mean that they're mutually exclusive either. Both could be going on at the same time. So I took it almost maybe too literally that maybe this was about school shootings or that maybe this was about the violence that was being bred within him.

on a mental and maybe physical level.

KP (39:45.939)
But in reality, maybe it's about the chaotic nature of this existence and how nothing makes sense, especially in grief and loss. No, no, you're right.

Bobbymom (39:50.998)
It has to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Because grief doesn't make sense. I mean, it does make sense, but your experience of what you think and feel and go through can't be, you know, I mean, it's...

KP (40:10.535)
No, and I agree. like what's the craziest part and shout out by the way, the cinematographer Larkin Siple, editor Joe Murphy, Siple shot. You ever heard of it? Everything everywhere all at once. And so like the camera was always in the middle of action. It was doing crazy things. It was so awesome.

Bobbymom (40:17.742)
Uh-huh.

Bobbymom (40:23.086)
Mmm, I did not realize that.

Bobbymom (40:30.582)
And that's where, you know, I said the middle part of the movie feels a little thin in places, a little stretched, a little, the pacing gets a little slow for me. But when you have, when you have cinematography like this, that keeps you engaged and keeps you wondering like, all right, this may not be my favorite part of the book, but I want to keep turning because I like the

I like the way the words sound. You know, that's kinda, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

KP (41:00.711)
Yeah, great way to word it. Agreed. We've all been there. I mean, genuinely, we've all been there. Like, you know, you got to see how it ends and this is the movie you have to see how it ends.

Bobbymom (41:08.75)
So this movie, by the time you experience the middle pieces, you kind of feel further away from that fairy tale aspect, at least I did in the first part. So I'm curious, by the time we get to the third act and we get into the ending, you...

KP (41:22.982)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (41:39.026)
you realize, I guess pretty quickly that you were, you are in a fairy tale. How did that feel to you going from the slow burn to just the absolute craziness of when you get the reveal and all that?

KP (41:56.649)
Well, I'll say this, that's when I knew I was in a movie that was going to do well in mass audiences. exactly right. Exactly right.

Bobbymom (42:01.132)
Yeah. Yeah. Cause it went for it, right? Like they, because, because they, they, they teed up such a tease and it could have, if it had been anything less than what it was, I would have been, I would have ended up so disappointed in this.

KP (42:22.831)
Well, in Q3, in the third act, that's when it, for me, rebuked elevated horror. It wasn't concerned with what you thought it should be or anything like that. It was concerned with being an incredibly entertaining movie. So to give the people, again, we're doing a breakdown here. So come to find out, Alice, is her name Alice?

Bobbymom (42:26.499)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (42:37.72)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Bobbymom (42:49.276)
I don't think so.

KP (42:50.439)
And we won't say too much, right? We won't say too much, but Alex's poor little existence. Basically an ant comes into town and this ant is a witch.

Bobbymom (42:52.91)
Right.

Bobbymom (43:05.166)
Like straight up, she's just a witch. She's not even a watered down version of it.

KP (43:06.371)
And straight up, she's just a witch.

KP (43:13.725)
Gladys her name is Gladys played by Amy May Amy Madigan phenomenally She's an uncle buck by the way, So then you have this you know this Huge twist and his existence is so tortured his kid his parents sit at a dinner table Lifeless he has to feed him soup The junkie breaks in there and looks at him and they get up that it was just crazy

Bobbymom (43:21.289)
man, yeah.

Hmm

Bobbymom (43:30.926)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (43:39.32)
Mmm.

KP (43:43.577)
And in the scovers the kids again, we already we've already said spoilers are all standing there hypnotized in the basement Every kid missing that threw me dude that

Bobbymom (43:47.982)
Hmm

Bobbymom (43:52.846)
Hmm.

Bobbymom (43:57.346)
Where did you- okay, before we got to that moment, where did you think the kids were? Okay, where did you think they were? Alive? Dead? Like, did you have any theories?

KP (44:02.675)
That's a great question. That's a great question. That's a that's a terrific question. Huh? No, I didn't.

Bobbymom (44:09.357)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (44:13.72)
Because I will say this, I feel like a lot of times, not every time of course, but I think a lot of times I can kinda see a few avenues of where it could be going. And I always love when I don't know. If I can't figure it out, I'm pleasantly surprised. And I thought early on maybe it was something like this, but

KP (44:32.659)
Yeah, I did not know on this.

KP (44:40.477)
Maybe Justine?

Bobbymom (44:43.704)
But right. but the, the, the middle part of the movie, which I will, the good thing I will say about all that is that it convinced me that it wasn't right. Like it convinced me that it wasn't something like this. And I definitely didn't see it being like, you know, the aunt that comes to visit. Like I didn't see that coming at all.

KP (44:57.991)
Right.

KP (45:04.465)
No, I thought maybe, yeah, maybe it's some sort of like allegory, you know, and we find out it was a shooting. But then you get that taken out from the mustached Alden Einrich, his chapter from Austin Abrams, you know, like you get it like, which is hilarious, like that was so funny, the drug, but then you get this Pennywise, this Pennywise like character in Gladys introduced.

Bobbymom (45:10.466)
Right.

Mmm.

Bobbymom (45:20.532)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (45:26.67)
You're gonna have to

Bobbymom (45:32.393)
yeah.

KP (45:33.275)
And then all of sudden I knew, was like, okay, like I'm in, I'm in a movie that's fun. Like it's not, you know what I mean?

Bobbymom (45:38.57)
Yeah, it's not taking itself too seriously. mean, there are some very serious components to it and I still think you can find the, you know, even if it's not school shooting, you can still find a child violence like real life connection to it. But because he gives you an actual witch to play with.

you can circumvent that if you want to and kind of live in this area of, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But, but even a fairy tale is also doing that. It's letting you off the hook, but it's also teaching you something in the same breath.

KP (46:09.479)
Yeah, he lets you off the hook a little bit.

KP (46:18.121)
Then he gives you, on top of all of that, he gives you, and I think this is why it hit mass audiences, he gives you catharsis at the end.

Bobbymom (46:24.739)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah. A hundred percent.

KP (46:28.273)
You know, you know what I mean? And it's beautifully shot. It's hilarious. It's unbelievable. It's cinema. But you know, I'm going say to you, I want people to go watch weapons, enjoy it. It's not what you expect.

Bobbymom (46:34.094)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Bobbymom (46:41.878)
Yeah, go watch it. I will say, like if you're still listening and you haven't seen it, which, you we've spoiled it, so that's your fault. I will say that, again, I will maintain that I don't think this is for everybody with its pacing and with a little bit of its structure, but I do think there's an actual payoff to it. I think it's a good payoff.

KP (46:52.755)
Great.

Bobbymom (47:12.034)
the the third the third act saves it for me because at that point it could have gone either way it could have gone it could have truly gone either way because there's nothing i hate more than a movie with a lot of potential that drops the ball i i hate that i hate that more than i hate just a straight-up bad movie

KP (47:20.841)
Cool, okay.

KP (47:28.829)
Yeah, like you gotta land the plane.

So you're not only saying this landed the plane, you're saying like that landing like almost made it for you.

Bobbymom (47:36.657)
it lands. Yeah, it lands.

Bobbymom (47:41.951)
The landing was the best part.

KP (47:45.459)
say that's awesome. That's that's so you that was so divisive amongst people on the internet. I love hearing that.

Bobbymom (47:50.796)
I mean, I just think it's, don't think we have enough of that in movies right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Well, that's why you mentioned earlier, this one could be in the rotation. That's why it could be in the rotation.

KP (47:54.163)
Final Act brought it together for you.

What's insane and like insane is awesome. Insane is cinema.

KP (48:08.905)
Yeah, that ending is one of those ones where you show it to a friend and you sit there and you watch them watch the ending. Yeah, like that's one of the best feelings in the world. So that's weapons at crackers. You're gonna leave her there and we'll do it again. Like we may cover this next one. Paul Thomas Anderson also written by Thomas pension starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Penn, Benicio del Toro, Tiana Taylor.

Bobbymom (48:12.064)
Mm-hmm. Watch them watch that 100 % 100 % Yeah Yeah

KP (48:36.349)
Wood Harris, Regina Hall, everybody's so good. Alana Hall from the Liquor's Pizza. Shayna McHale, she played Jungle P-Ward. But we have PTA's latest film, and I'd almost argue masterpiece, One Battle After Another. Now Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, Bobby, you know my favorite actor on the planet is Leonardo DiCaprio.

Bobbymom (48:54.414)
Hmm.

Bobbymom (48:59.502)
Yes, sir.

Bobbymom (49:05.772)
Is it really?

KP (49:06.661)
It's not even close. It's not. I think he clears everybody. I, I, I for since basketball diaries when he was a child, I mean, obviously what's eating Gilbert great. He was so good. People thought he was actually mentally challenged, but I just, and he didn't doing what Titanic at 18 like, and I just think he is just that guy. I love him. I love him.

Bobbymom (49:12.34)
inch EVERYONE.

Bobbymom (49:32.289)
So more than... more than Jack.

KP (49:35.795)
Well, almost feels unfair. I haven't ever thought of those two to get. I think it's kind of like LeBron and Jordan, right? Where everybody wants a clear cut goat, but to do so you're having to compare generations. So I've always said Leo's the goat, right? Because I grew up loving him.

Bobbymom (49:37.55)
I gotta hear it. I gotta hear it.

Bobbymom (49:49.795)
Mmm.

Bobbymom (49:56.494)
Mm-hmm.

KP (50:04.573)
Like he's the one I was exposed to Jack a little later, which is weird, but would, but Jack, but Jack Nicholson obviously has given me the greatest performance I've ever seen in my entire life. and, and, and Jack Torrance, and so multifaceted, so just hypnotized out of this war and obviously once full of the Cuckoo's net. Like anything I, which is at least like Jack Nicholson is in

Bobbymom (50:07.842)
mmmm okay, okay

Bobbymom (50:17.166)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (50:24.462)
huh.

KP (50:33.257)
Incredible, I don't think I think they're both one-ups right like I do So that's hard to say I mean you could argue maybe Leo has more range The Jack Nicholson has a higher high and he can do things only Jack Nicholson can do You know what? I mean, so that's that's a great you present a great question because like

Bobbymom (50:36.576)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Bobbymom (50:42.542)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (50:47.118)
True, yeah. True, yeah.

I compare those because I think those are probably the most comparable.

KP (50:58.963)
That's a great, yeah, that's a great, mean, that shows you how good Leo is, right, that you're even talking about him with Jack. Because Jack's the man. Yeah, but Jack's the man.

Bobbymom (51:05.012)
no, no, I don't get me wrong. I love Leo. I agree. Yeah, I mean, he's but I do agree that Leo probably does have more range. He probably does have more range. Yeah.

KP (51:14.535)
He might, he might. mean, he and he's a movie star, right? He's one of the last bastions of the mystery. You don't really know about him. You know, he gets on Saudi Prince's yacht.

KP (51:28.617)
Well, you're you're no longer recording. So I'm going to slap.

Bobbymom (51:48.859)
Okay, can you hear me?

KP (51:50.439)
Yeah. And you're recording. So we are back and I'll edit. So I'll do another little snap, but yeah, like Jack and Lee, Jack and Leo is a great, that's a great discussion. I mean, you'd have a whole pod on that, but they're in the class of their own, right? Like that's, there's no, there's no if hands or butts like those, those two gentlemen. And, there's no disappointment in that. And like in Leonardo DiCaprio, the longer you get his character in one battle after another, the more he comes to life.

Bobbymom (51:51.803)
Okay. Okay. Okay.

KP (52:19.745)
And the more he's just so daggum funny and so girl dad. He said this is such a girl dad movie. And so and I appreciate the hat by the way. Okay, so Paul Thomas Anderson. Everybody waits for his movies with bated breath. They're always going to be an Oscar contender. You have before the I mean, licorice pizza. But that's probably like literally the least

Bobbymom (52:26.641)
Yeah. Yeah.

Bobbymom (52:32.146)
Mm-hmm.

KP (52:49.065)
Pardon me. I've been sick. There will be blood the master punch drunk love I love Boogie nights as his first film Magnolia. I mean he's just an unbelievable director right and one thing he hadn't done is a true blockbuster action movie and One battle after another is a prescient true blockbuster action is larger than life

Bobbymom (53:04.689)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (53:09.905)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (53:18.428)
Mm-hmm.

KP (53:19.497)
So before, so again, I already told the kid and you got Sean Penn out of retirement, right? Like my mom's generation, they love Sean Penn.

Bobbymom (53:25.233)
What? Do you love shampooing?

KP (53:29.639)
I don't know him. That's a quote. I I loved his performance. I thought he was phenomenal. I'm trying to think of how much I've seen him in, you know I'm saying? Like, but he's like milk.

Bobbymom (53:36.755)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (53:44.807)
Have you seen I am Sam?

KP (53:49.807)
No, I actually haven't. I forgot about that. The game.

Bobbymom (53:51.346)
That's probably okay, so I'm not a huge the game's good. The game is not good because of Sean Penn, but it's a good movie I'm not a huge Sean Penn fan. Mystic River's good He's he's a he's a I think I like it was an actor better than do as a person I don't think he's probably a person but

KP (53:55.932)
Yeah.

KP (53:59.399)
Yeah. Pardon me,

KP (54:07.588)
yeah, he is in the river, yeah.

KP (54:13.705)
Yeah, I don't know anything about him, to be honest with you.

Bobbymom (54:15.728)
But I Am Sam, it's a, I Am Sam and Mystic River are two movies that are just, you've gotta watch them. If you haven't seen either one, you need to watch them pronto.

KP (54:29.235)
So him being brought out of retirement, that jiggle your sack.

Bobbymom (54:32.964)
I did not even realize he was retired. I know I hadn't seen him in anything in a while, but I didn't know if he was retired or not. That doesn't bring me in, no. Leo brings me in, Sean Penn. Sean Penn never brings me into anything, but I'm not gonna avoid anything with him in it. Do you know what I mean?

KP (54:44.765)
Yeah, Leo will always bring me in.

KP (54:51.985)
Leo, Leo, I mean even in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Waffle Wall Street. I mean the guy is just unbelievable. He's captivating. I just want to know him. You know what I mean? Like I want to, like I just, he's, you don't know anything? gosh, he still has that like, that mystique in the movie Stars of Old. I'm gonna miss that. And he plays Bob.

Bobbymom (54:54.862)
I'll watch anything with Leo but I... Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Bobbymom (55:06.605)
100%.

Bobbymom (55:13.904)
Yeah, very, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bobbymom (55:19.967)
Hehehehehe

KP (55:21.769)
Bob in the bathrobe, you know girl dead Bob What first of all can I say this what a movie This is a movie movie shout out Harry Styles we got him Right. I firmly believe this is a movie movie. I think that My opinions of one battle after another is this so people so, you know, you know you got there and I apologize for the pop we're figuring out but

Bobbymom (55:29.788)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (55:34.958)
Okay. Yeah.

Bobbymom (55:43.728)
Mm-hmm.

KP (55:48.965)
Yet when their evil enemy resurfaces after 16 years a group of ex revolutionaries reunite to rescue one of their own daughters. This was the French. It's the French what 57 or something.

Bobbymom (56:00.018)
yeah, think it is. I think you're right.

KP (56:04.497)
And it's the movie, so it's based on the book, apparently, Vineland, right? And he also wrote Gravity's Rainbow, I think. So, okay, Bobby, for me, if I, know, just to give my, again, this movie could be talked about an episode on its own. It's absolutely amazing.

Bobbymom (56:29.101)
sure.

KP (56:34.313)
It's again to the times it's again at the same time feels like a 2000s movie a little bit for me. You know what I mean? Um,

Bobbymom (56:39.822)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Well, probably because they go all in on the action. And it feels real, too. It doesn't.

KP (56:47.163)
Exactly right. Yeah, they do. It's so dude, is this the fastest two hours and 40 minutes you've ever experienced in your life?

Bobbymom (56:53.714)
I was gonna say, there have been plenty of long movies where they've done such a good job that I don't feel like I'm sitting there for three hours, this goes, you have no idea you're sitting there for nearly three hours. It barely slows down. It barely slows down.

KP (57:07.564)
Unbelievable.

KP (57:12.519)
Yeah, it's the greatest. I mean the pace that the fact pta had this in him is wild del toro steals every scene I love him. I'm gonna have a few you guys have you had anything to drink sir? Yeah, a few small beers like that Like what like that it's so funny is I thought it was unreal. I mean, i'm not lying to you like I watched opening night

Bobbymom (57:19.025)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (57:22.415)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (57:27.89)
That's... that's funny.

KP (57:41.513)
or during the day on the Thursday before it even was like really coming out the second two o'clock during a workday and I just It blew me away I just and I couldn't tell you there's there's no like penultimate moment or ultimate moment Chase infinity by the way is Willow everybody watch chase infinity. She's going to be a star. I Mean, she's you know, she did this she did presumed innocent but like this is going to launch her into the stratosphere

Bobbymom (57:45.123)
wow. Priorities.

Bobbymom (58:00.85)
absolutely.

Bobbymom (58:10.82)
Yes, and deservingly so. Yeah.

KP (58:12.858)
Yeah, but say it should and I know you say that for all the wrong reasons you dog No, I'm kidding but

Bobbymom (58:17.303)
no, no. I didn't even notice that she was female.

KP (58:22.684)
Wow, you know what? Good on you. You know, Robert, good call, good call. That's why, you know what? Like and subscribe. Like and subscribe if you're pro everything. See how we sit on the fence? We can sleep on the fence. But agreed, agreed, concur. You know what? Just in June, no, make it every month or whatever it is. Anyways, but I genuinely think...

Bobbymom (58:24.754)
I don't don't see gender

Bobbymom (58:30.411)
Hahahaha

Bobbymom (58:41.503)
not.

Hahaha

KP (58:51.302)
I think you have some, I'm gonna be honest Bobby, I'm Bobby Mom. You have some Oscars here.

Bobbymom (58:59.494)
You think so?

KP (59:00.692)
Right off the bat, gun in your mouth and you're sucking it. What Oscar, what Oscar does this win for you? mean life on the line.

Bobbymom (59:03.811)
Hahaha!

Bobbymom (59:14.674)
effects maybe.

KP (59:14.728)
Exactly right.

Wow, that is interesting.

Bobbymom (59:22.739)
I No, think so. I I'll be honest, I don't even know everything that's being considered, so I haven't seen everything to say that. oh yeah, Sinners isn't gonna win. I mean, Sinners is good, but Sinners isn't gonna win it. Sinners is very good. wife and I, no, it's good. It's good. It's very good. My wife watched it the other night. We watched it.

KP (59:22.908)
You don't think best director.

KP (59:33.128)
centers this.

KP (59:40.658)
centers is really good though. Like people centers is really good. I stay on that train. Like centers is phenomenal.

Bobbymom (59:52.37)
She really liked it. Very good. I just don't think it's gonna win. but yeah, no, I say I can see best director for sure.

KP (59:57.647)
I get when he was hitting.

KP (01:00:01.79)
Yeah. And I want, obviously I'm a huge fan of, well, Leonardo DiCaprio. I always won a best actor. He deserved it 1500 times before he finally got it for freaking, my gosh. You know what I'm talking about?

Bobbymom (01:00:11.122)
thousand percent.

Yeah. This is like such a... I don't want to say departure, but this is very different for him.

KP (01:00:26.185)
Isn't it cool? He's entering his dad era, dude. He didn't have it in like really, but it's like a...

Bobbymom (01:00:28.658)
And like, you know what? He actually kind of looks like Jack Nicholson in this movie a little bit. He really does. Yeah, he kind of does. Now that I think about it, he, oh yeah. mean, I mean, they worked to ever since they worked together on, I've got this weird like, it's not a real theory, but it's like a fun pretend thing in my head. Cause they worked together and then they departed, right?

KP (01:00:33.661)
Dude, you know, that's what I thought was really cool. You brought those two up. I think he is a predecessor. You know what I mean?

KP (01:00:50.515)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:00:54.354)
That was Jack Nicholson. It was not his last movie, but it was his last drama, his last villain. It was his last like villain role. And Leo is really just, Leo more often than not plays the good guy, right? He is just the good guy version of Jack. And it's almost like in the Departed, he just passes the baton.

KP (01:00:55.375)
so good.

KP (01:01:08.233)
Mm-hmm.

KP (01:01:15.785)
Dude, that's a great perspective. Yeah, that's a great perspective.

Bobbymom (01:01:17.103)
It really is, because Jack did one movie after that. It was his last movie called, what is it? It's got Paul Rudd and Reese Witherspoon. How do you know? And it's not that good. But The Departed was his last villain role and what a movie to go out on. And it truly does feel like, because that's one movie when I remember seeing it thinking like,

KP (01:01:37.495)
geez. Yeah, no kidding.

Bobbymom (01:01:46.994)
We have entered a new era with like Leo's generation being

KP (01:01:52.253)
That's really that's a great and like I mean listen this film ogre by the way, he finally won it for the rebdent Tell me he didn't deserve it in these listen listen to some I'll just give some of these because there's too many he's in too many things Titanic obviously gangs of New York catch me if you can the aviator the aviator the departed blood diamond body of like revolutionary roach Shutter Island inception Jay Uggar Django Unchained the great Gatsby the wolf of Wall Street the addition the audition

Bobbymom (01:01:58.289)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (01:02:03.514)
Yeah.

huh.

KP (01:02:21.5)
The Revenant, once upon a time in Hollywood, don't look up, killers of the flower moon and now one battle after another.

Bobbymom (01:02:26.972)
So I remember I was in college the year that Matthew McConaughey won for Dallas Buyers Club. 100%. And then I remember, so what was the movie he did right before the Revenant that we all thought he was gonna get? It was the same year. It must have been The Wolf of Wall Street. And someone came in and said he should, he.

KP (01:02:37.808)
And we know he won that for True Detective.

KP (01:02:50.28)
The Wolf of Wall Street.

Bobbymom (01:02:54.77)
He's deserved it since and they named, I can't remember what they named. And I said, no, I said, he has deserved it much longer than that. He should have had it at Gilbert Grape. He should have had it. Have you ever seen the Aviator?

KP (01:03:03.546)
Mm-hmm.

KP (01:03:09.254)
Yeah, dude, when I was a kid, but yeah, he's so.

Bobbymom (01:03:11.09)
My dad and I watched that way back in the day and I didn't get it at the time and then I rewatched it a few years later and I'm telling you that has to be one of the most amazing performances I've ever seen. He's deserved it time and time again. Jack got it multiple times. He deserves it multiple times and I'm rooting for, I'm rooting. You know, I've never seen that. I've never seen it. I've heard

KP (01:03:33.64)
I mean, I give him basketball diaries, man, in 1995. He's a kid. He's so good.

Bobbymom (01:03:40.549)
Yeah, yeah, he's good. He's coming every he's good and everything. But yeah, this is so different for him. I would I'm almost afraid because of the the genre movie type isn't always respected at the Academy Awards and it's becoming more so. But I'm afraid he will be overlooked simply because this isn't a I mean, it's dramatic, but you know.

KP (01:03:59.154)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (01:04:08.626)
They seem to turn their nose up to the air in these types of movies. And so I'd be afraid that he would be overlooked for it. That's why I didn't automatically say, you know, I can see him getting the Oscar, but I definitely see him being nominated and I would be very happy if he got it.

KP (01:04:29.446)
I I think I'm being honest with you. Like I think this movie is going to make some noise. Like there's not, there's not a lot of competition with it at that, at that level. You know what I mean? Like it's, it's, it's a, you know, F one will get in there centers wicked for good. Still hasn't come out.

Bobbymom (01:04:34.608)
I think so too, I think so too.

Yeah. Right.

Bobbymom (01:04:50.416)
we can forgive will get a lot of technical words probably and will probably deserve it but but i think i don't know where as we get closer will have to talk more

KP (01:05:03.302)
Yeah, a movie could come out of nowhere and really like...

Bobbymom (01:05:06.874)
Yeah, you really, you'd never know. You really... absolutely, dude.

KP (01:05:08.614)
I want to see Guillermo de Toro's Frankenstein. I'm really excited about that. Like, yeah, there's some, there's some, know, Superman, like the Superman throw in the other long walk 20 years later, the smashing machine. Like there's, there's some stuff, but like I have a weird feeling that, one battle after another will end up. I'm not lying to you. think it might end up having the most Oscars. I do. I really, I think this is that movie.

Bobbymom (01:05:21.553)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:05:29.959)
You think so? Wow. Okay, you're predicting right now in October that one battle after the other is the clear overall winner of... Wow, alright. Remember that, people. We'll see. Hey, I would not be upset if you were right about that. I hope you are. don't know if I agree, but I... I love it. I absolutely love it.

KP (01:05:42.01)
after another yes I did genuinely yeah yeah well yeah well we love the Oscars

KP (01:05:53.875)
So yeah, so let me ask you this. What are your thoughts on it? Okay, okay, awesome.

Bobbymom (01:05:59.728)
Yeah, no, no, no, I can't, I assume you did too. I can't give it more praise. You know, I think Sean Penn works better as a bad guy than he does anything else. I mean, you've got it. You got it. Yeah. Yeah, it reminds me a little bit of, you know, Mystic River in a way. He plays a...

KP (01:06:04.516)
I did, absolutely.

KP (01:06:13.852)
He's so good. You like the group of the Christmas whatever.

Bobbymom (01:06:28.742)
hard dude in that movie. But yeah, no, think this, it's really hard to put into one category. At least for me. I think there's a lot of...

KP (01:06:41.232)
No, I agree. Yeah, it starts off as like one thing like revolutionary insects and all this and it transitions into yeah, I agree

Bobbymom (01:06:46.362)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. mean, it's got... It's strong direction. It's a lot of energy. The action, the visuals, the great pacing. Almost the opposite in some ways of weapons, know, because I think I kind of felt the time in weapons. But here I not feel that at all.

KP (01:07:15.835)
No.

Bobbymom (01:07:16.059)
everyone, everyone knocks it out of the park. the, the father daughter relationship, it's emotional, it's, but it's also grounding and it's, but it's also absurd in some ways. There's, there's political satire, that's kind of weaved, weaved it, weaved in there, in places, a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Epic's a great way to describe it.

KP (01:07:35.398)
Yeah, 100%.

KP (01:07:39.794)
to Daddy Daughter Epic.

Bobbymom (01:07:45.295)
Absolutely. Yeah, it really, it really, really is.

KP (01:07:46.268)
Really is. With the last 45 minutes for me, just cementing it as a near masterpiece.

Bobbymom (01:07:52.976)
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's ambitious. It's got a lot of social commentary to it. lot of call to action extremists type themes. Yeah, it it it it it it it it it's able to mix satire with serious undertones, which isn't like

KP (01:08:05.705)
Yeah, they're violent. The French 75 are violent. And it calls to act like, is that the only way to put a point across?

Bobbymom (01:08:21.166)
It's they make it look easy, but that's not easy to do. Against effects, visual style, cinematography.

KP (01:08:34.121)
I mean, some of the like what you're presented with too, when you know, Leo is obviously like with Teyana Taylor, it's hot and heavy, right? She's trying to bang him in every scene they're in. you know, viva la revolution. You know, it just, it's this real enigmatic, just this passion overloading. And then you get this scene, we're spoiling everybody. We're spoiling spoiler alert. I'll pause, there we go. And it's, you know, you have a scene where they have, she's with child.

Bobbymom (01:08:43.644)
Yeah, right.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm

KP (01:09:02.921)
and decides to go the life, subverted expectations gender wise, of a revolutionary and is not going to remain with Leo to take care of their child. And then you get the other side of that coin later, but which is amazing. But in that like moment, you see him just, he's got his hair pulled back in a knot. It reminds me of Geisenhofer, he's a watcher of ours in German. But it's just this incredible like,

Bobbymom (01:09:09.088)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (01:09:23.759)
Yeah!

Alright.

KP (01:09:32.882)
juxtaposition of like she's going to do that because that matters but like so does this and now She's off to the races. You know what I mean? Like I don't know how to really reconcile that cards on the table What kind of hand do I have? with that, you know what I mean like because this is What she's doing matters, but so does being a mother to that child and being with Your husband your partner, you know what I mean?

Bobbymom (01:09:45.99)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, yeah.

Bobbymom (01:10:00.825)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

KP (01:10:01.874)
And like you're stuck in this place and time where you're needed for sure, but you're also needed at home. And you know what I mean? How great does that play out on screen?

Bobbymom (01:10:10.034)
Yeah.

It plays out well and it kind of makes you feel kind of stuck in a, well, you know, you can blame her, but at the same time, you can't help but kind of understand that perspective. And it hits close to home because there's that like, okay, well, do you just keep your head down and keep your opinions and thoughts and...

whatever to yourself or do you make stances? you publicly get involved on whatever side of the fence you're on, on anything, And you always think you can do these big grandiose things, but when it comes down to it, can you? So,

KP (01:10:55.815)
Yeah, with true revolutionary zeal.

KP (01:11:11.401)
That's a great question.

Bobbymom (01:11:12.398)
Do you think the only, you know, I was, I'll be honest, like I always try to come at these things with like a lot of, realistic expectations, not just for me, but what I think the people may think and feel. like when I say like, I recommend a movie or I don't recommend a movie, it's not a hundred percent based on my personal perspective, just like with weapons. It's like, okay, I like it. I can see where a lot of people wouldn't.

do you, the only negative thing I really have to say, and I don't look for negative things, but like I say, I try to look at it from all angles. Do you think it gets preachy with that? Do you think it gets a little too heavy handed or do you think it's an appropriate amount for everything that they're throwing on the screen?

KP (01:12:10.311)
That's a great question. Because I didn't in the moment in watching the film credit to Paul Thomas Ambrose, I didn't have that thought. Because he kept it so interesting, especially with the League of the Christmas Gentlemen.

Bobbymom (01:12:28.142)
Yeah, I did not think about that while watching it. I'll say that.

KP (01:12:31.209)
Yeah, I didn't think about it while watching so to credit there. And then like, I think because there's bigger things like what do you do when you do care deeply, but then you have a family to provide for and protect. And I've been in that too, like people want you to be revolutionary, but are they themselves? And I've been in those situations even at work or a place of business or whatever it is where you

Bobbymom (01:12:45.307)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (01:12:54.56)
Hmm.

KP (01:13:00.841)
You absolutely want to make a stand. It can lead you to a lot of things, but then your, your, your stakes are weighed against what difference are you going to make? But you know, romantically you do it anyways, but then all of a sudden you're a dad. All of a sudden you're relying on that income. All of a sudden, you know, the way the pro

Bobbymom (01:13:04.528)
Right, right, right.

Bobbymom (01:13:17.285)
Right. Right.

Yeah, it's a lot harder to risk it all when what it all is is a family.

KP (01:13:29.349)
Right. I mean, yeah, exactly right. I could see people interpreting that that way for sure. I never went fully thinking that. I didn't watch it and think that. I think that's a tough one because the movie's a refuge and you see two sides. You see it's a refuge for those

Bobbymom (01:13:35.813)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

KP (01:13:58.418)
And the guy where I want to give credit where there's like as people that failed to change the world. David Alreich wrote that. You know, but it's also he's an awesome dad. Even if he's not, you know, we already talked about spoilers. You get this incredible wrench thrown into everything. And then you see if that matters or not biologically. And guess what? Spoiler, it doesn't. The guy, it does not. And I love that. I love that heart of this more than almost anything.

Bobbymom (01:14:04.07)
Mmm. Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (01:14:19.662)
It doesn't. No. No.

Yeah.

KP (01:14:27.721)
in the movie.

Bobbymom (01:14:27.842)
thousand percent. Thousand percent. Yeah, that, that, that it strengthens it to me, really.

KP (01:14:35.217)
Yeah, it provides the heartbeat and I mean there's no doubt it is is the heart it's the performance those two bouncing off each other I think that took center stage

Bobbymom (01:14:37.232)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's,

Bobbymom (01:14:47.058)
And it surprisingly, and I think this is done a hundred percent on purpose, you know, there is a lot of talk about activism and call to action and political satire and all that, but yet it delivers a lot of hope, joy. There's a through line of

goodness surrounded by cynicism, right?

KP (01:15:16.391)
Yeah, mean America's war with itself.

Bobbymom (01:15:18.821)
And that is, yes, and that's a, that is such a refreshing thing. Same reason why I think Superman is so good is that there is just this refreshing take, which obviously, honestly, lot of similarities there too with like, is it, what is it, what is it, what does it matter about like, you know, who are your real parents? You know, so yeah, there's, there's a, there's a lot of, of, you know, and I think we need that right now.

KP (01:15:27.932)
Mm-hmm.

KP (01:15:33.353)
I'd say a good double phage, weirdly enough.

KP (01:15:41.949)
Yeah. Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:15:47.026)
Because doesn't matter, we don't talk politics on this pod, really, but it doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on right now. Everyone knows that there's not, what's the word I'm looking for? There's not community, right? There's not middle ground.

KP (01:16:05.346)
yeah, it's gone. There's not third place.

KP (01:16:12.409)
that's yeah, that's yeah, great.

Bobbymom (01:16:14.566)
You know, there's just not. It's just not. and I think, you know, having something that even though it has all this extremist, it's wrapped in extremists, right? But once you unwrap that and at the core, it's just love, it's like love and relationship and...

KP (01:16:31.184)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, violence.

Bobbymom (01:16:42.982)
What does it mean to be a dad? What does it mean to be a child? What does it mean to have that connection? And then everything that surrounds that kind of shows you at the core what's important. And that's something that everybody could relate to, even if you're not a parent. Everyone can relate to that. You know, deep down, it's, there's...

We're fighting we might be fighting each other, but if you if you take away all of the Wrapping paper at the center. It's just us

KP (01:17:21.895)
No, and like, and I agree. then to piggyback, you also keep the fight alive because you do have your mini you and they're gonna have to find and carve out their place in the world.

Bobbymom (01:17:35.804)
Yeah, and they're going to watch what you did and look and see what you did and look at that as a template.

KP (01:17:39.049)
Mm-hmm.

KP (01:17:47.05)
Yeah, because the fringe is becoming more common, right? Like this perspective, more people are rebuking the government. More people are saying, hey, this is messed up. More people are saying, hey, I don't I'm not afforded any of the same opportunities my dad or grandfather had. More people like, you know, the way in ice raids, et cetera, are like, hey, that doesn't really feel humane. You know what I mean? And so I think that like this is I said prescient already, but like

Bobbymom (01:17:50.503)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:17:56.339)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:18:03.097)
god. Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:18:09.359)
Right. Yeah.

KP (01:18:16.765)
You know, there's no disillusionment here. Like this is, it does feel like in our current climate and it probably always has one battle after another.

Bobbymom (01:18:27.333)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean especially especially now You know again again wherever you fall on it You can't you can't ignore the fact that it is quite literally been one battle after the other for quite some time

KP (01:18:31.794)
Yeah.

KP (01:18:41.577)
You know, they probably said the same thing with the Bay of Pigs under JFK. They probably said the same thing.

Bobbymom (01:18:44.795)
I'm sure they did, but you can't argue that the tension is higher now in a lot of ways than it was even then.

KP (01:18:57.105)
I mean, think post-911 was the most synchronicity I've ever seen. And we were very young.

Bobbymom (01:19:02.259)
Right. 1000%. And now it's just, mean, now it's the opposite. Yeah. Now, now there is a, just, reaching, reaching across the aisle doesn't exist like it used to. Even, even 10, 20, yeah, even 10, 15 years ago, you could reach across the aisle in ways that you just can't now. And, and yeah. So, so it's, yeah, you're absolutely right. You're demonized.

KP (01:19:06.301)
And now it's the opposite.

KP (01:19:12.709)
This movie pulls no punches man. You're like you're

Not only that, you're demonized.

Bobbymom (01:19:32.274)
And so this movie, you know, bringing political satire is, mean, I don't want everything to be about politics, but if you can wrap it up for me in a way that I can digest it and get themes out of it without feeling like you have a heavy-handed message,

and it works in a movie, and I think this does work. I mean, think some people could watch it and say it's heavy-handed, but people are gonna find ways to make everything geopolitical or whatever, you know? They're gonna find their ways to do it, and I think this way...

KP (01:20:18.089)
Did you watch Eddington? We didn't cover Eddington did we? The Ari Aster film. It's incredible and it is an absolute, it's in conversation with this movie and a phenomenal double feature.

Bobbymom (01:20:20.559)
Eddington? No, no, I don't think so.

Bobbymom (01:20:28.711)
Mm-hmm. Okay. So do you think this walks away maybe best picture? Or do you think best actor, best director?

KP (01:20:40.009)
I it could be, mean, I go as far as say as of right now, it would probably, it would probably walk away with best picture. I don't, what beats this? You know what I mean? I don't, I don't know either. And I'm not even saying it's the best movie I've ever seen. I think I gave it a 4.25. I just, and I just don't know.

Bobbymom (01:20:43.379)
Mm-hmm.

Really? I don't know. Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:20:57.715)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'd probably put it on there too.

KP (01:21:06.433)
I you know what mean? I don't know what walking especially you have MAGA and Tifa you have a phenomenal screenplay by Anderson a timeless story was like you just There's just an incredible action-filled blockbuster from a director that's never done that before but yet just knocks it out of the park you have chase infinities breakout Regina also not like it's just

Bobbymom (01:21:07.482)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:21:26.397)
So you're telling me that you don't think that K-Pop Demon Hunters is gonna take away Best Picture?

KP (01:21:32.616)
I don't even you know what I don't know anymore because I don't know what that is I know what it is because how well it's doing and it's now a skin in fortnight or all the characters are But apparently it's pretty big So, you know, I don't know that's a great that's a great point, but I think this is just I just think that this movie and I'm off of Roger Debert I want to give credit to whoever did this but they said it's like it's a crucial

Bobbymom (01:21:35.601)
Hehehehehe

Bobbymom (01:21:40.852)
god. Okay. Apparently.

Bobbymom (01:21:50.555)
Well, I don't think it's a great point at all, but okay.

KP (01:22:01.802)
deeply humanistic movie, cares about the characters deeply. Bob's frustration becomes her own as is a concern for Willa. And like, there's a lot of films of our moment, quote unquote, that feel cynical or angry, but this movie transcends it by being human and even offering optimism. And it's not one loss after another, it's one battle, keep fighting. And Brian Tellerico wrote that for Roger Eber, and I love how he ended that review. I echo his sentiments.

Bobbymom (01:22:08.989)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (01:22:14.547)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (01:22:22.419)
Hmm.

Bobbymom (01:22:27.655)
Yeah, one battle after that. I like that. It's not one loss after I like that a lot.

KP (01:22:35.305)
Yeah, I know what you're wondering is chase infinity. She's 16 in the movie. How old she in real life? I know you're wondering that. And you're a pervert, sir. Your name is also lock jaw.

Bobbymom (01:22:40.915)
You know what? I wasn't. Not even close, actually. Well, let me ask you this. So I'm guessing you don't think that War of the Worlds starring Ice Cube is not one of the contenders.

KP (01:23:05.253)
You know, I actually, because of all this stuff, like I want to see it so bad.

Bobbymom (01:23:10.023)
Does this change anything for you? Two words, evil and gory.

KP (01:23:15.238)
No, what? She's not in this, is she?

Bobbymom (01:23:17.764)
and War of the Worlds.

KP (01:23:19.617)
I'd you know again I remain interested. Does this change any for like okay, let me ask you this How fascinating of a storyline in and this has nothing to do what you said by the way one battle after another though Was the the lock jaws like psychosexual? Obsession with perfidia Like that like how insane of a storyline was that

Bobbymom (01:23:27.251)
I'm listening.

Bobbymom (01:23:33.796)
HAHAHAHA

Bobbymom (01:23:45.338)
was your was requested yeah yeah

KP (01:23:49.672)
Or when she comes in in the beginning and she makes him get a heart on before like, how, that was so awesome. He's like this monster, you know what mean? like he, that, and yet it's so heartbreaking too, because you go into the whole conflict of Willa and the actual fatherhood. Like it's just, I don't know man, this movie might have it all.

Bobbymom (01:23:57.307)
Yeah. Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:24:05.203)
Hmm.

Bobbymom (01:24:12.443)
It's a- it's- dude, it's- it's- it's one that I'm gonna, like, I think if I rewatch it, I could- I could come back again and again on different episodes and bring a different thought to it. Or a different review, or a different... What? yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you're right, you're right. We- we barely talked about him.

KP (01:24:27.879)
Yeah, I mean, look at Sergio St. Carlos, brother.

The sensei like how good is that character? We didn't talk about Benicio del Toro.

And he was was captivating.

He's just yeah, I think this is a great movie. I really do I'll just throw that around You're right I actually do I think everything's great Monster house next Bobby I'm so sorry. I mean dude we you know what for you people were recording into the The dead of night to just talk about movies with y'all and to be back So we covered weapons We covered

Bobbymom (01:24:44.083)
Yeah, yeah, it is, it is. Well, you do, but in this case, you're right.

Bobbymom (01:25:05.497)
absolutely, absolutely.

KP (01:25:13.319)
What is this movie? One Battle After Another. That's how much I loved it.

Bobbymom (01:25:14.703)
That's you love, can't remember it.

KP (01:25:20.193)
Peyton Manning's at the Baylor McCauley game, which is nuts and then

Bobbymom (01:25:25.339)
you know that you know this is like something that a bailer or whatever

KP (01:25:28.105)
I don't know. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, somebody when my employees work there and we talked about it like when it first a couple months ago and it became a yeah, it's nuts. Marshall Manning, but guess what? Spoiler alert. I'm him. I'm a 12 year old boy. They can see. We've now been. Yeah, we better stop now or it will be it forever. But again, one battle for another weapons and it's October.

Bobbymom (01:25:36.07)
Mm-hmm.

Bobbymom (01:25:42.211)
Okay, well, okay, well that's it for today people. That's it forever.

KP (01:25:57.033)
We're going to get it. mean, Bobby, we're talking Halloween. We're talking Friday the 13th. We're talking nine around Elm street. We're talking VHS Halloween. We're talking other little horror movies that may not whatever we're talking black phone to what's I mean, you know, we're just a good boy. Him, whatever. Like we're just going to have a blast with Halloween and we're to have us a proper October, even if it might not be proper in real life. We're going to, we're going to put it together for the people and for cinema.

Bobbymom (01:26:11.222)
yeah.

Bobbymom (01:26:16.978)
Yeah.

Bobbymom (01:26:21.523)
right.

KP (01:26:26.409)
You got Ken?

Bobbymom (01:26:28.603)
You got Bobby or whoever I am this week. Yeah.

KP (01:26:30.985)
I don't even know. Yeah, I don't even know who you are. And we watch way more movies than you see people. Like and subscribe with your thick mothers.

Bobbymom (01:26:35.549)
Sorry people.